Coach Billy Donovan said before Saturday's game against the Magic that Ball (knee) is "nowhere close" to returning and the team will have a formal conversation about a cut-off date if nothing improves by the All-Star break, Julia Poe of the Chicago Tribune reports.

Green (knee) is at least a week away from workouts that include running and jumping, Julia Poe of the Chicago Tribune reports. He remains without a timetable for a return.